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Hard to head, but good summary overall. Now imagine all this effort and investment into one "God" will be lost in a month with a pre-patch for TWW arriving? 🙄🤷‍♀️🤣

More or less, yep

Says someone commenting on these kinds of videos? 🤷‍♀️🤣👌

Chapters are for attention-challenged viewers like you, you're welcome

Very similar to how I play these days mate. What do you do with bronze at the end? Do you bother upgrading gear or just leave it?

@@GyrotexGaming have been getting cosmetics until now, but now I've bought everything :P won't bother upgrading on chars I won't play prolly

Yeah the problem is - many of us have PTSD from Retail, so we say NO to something in Pandaria just because of that

@@GyrotexGaming ​ @GyrotexGaming ​NO need for you to answer but I’ll share my thought process and choices since a LOT of people suffer from Altitis and they will need to make some very tough choices for their accounts and mental health as I had to hahaha Grayz Logic: So it’s been 2 days, I decided on a starting point and I finally got a solo 5-man boosting setup and my strategic choices down. I changed my mind yet again. Normal raids are great if you're playing 1 - 2 toons at a time, but with the volume that I will be pumping out (more) alts it's way too time consuming to leave groups, join groups, fly/get summoned x 200++++ times. With certain alts I run LFR's IF I feel like and need XP threads but I'll most likely simply just run 1 normal daily dungeon + heroics and the normal Landing daily scenario then back to heroic dungons and add more days, rotating more alts if I feel that it suits the situation better. In a way it’s like I’m using a flowchart where I adapt depending on mood. One thing is certain in my book. Heroic scenarios are too slow even with my level 20. All that RP is a waste of time and is no fun Yes, it takes longer using this strategy but I'm having a blast and I'm still having alts being maxed on both battle net accounts at a much quicker rate. I LOVE levelling, in Dragonflight more than ever, and TWW will be even more fun. Too much focus on time can lessen the fun by 10x for me By boosting alts at different levels it makes it feel more rewarding and managable as I can prep one alts mailbox at a time once it gets close 60+ range. Manually choosing XP threads and XP has become my go-to strategy. The Remix Mail Helper addon fills bags too quickly since it grabs ALL threads and I don’t need those at all on my alts. My slaves (boosted toons) are a 100% inactive as soon as they reach the ship except for grabbing the Inn + portal items for the Bazaar and sometimes waiting for Galleon if I choose to fly them to Halfhill. Valley over Jade for world boss reasons when needed and it’s the fastest flight The XP from heroic tokens really "slows down" around level 60 but the XP threads are 7% from then on so I'm learning ways to compensate as I go. And I'm still improving my pathing in the dungeons, when to pop cds, lessen downtime with certain bosses etc so it’s an awesome learning experience that will benefit me in the future whether I'm farming, boosting or speedrunning content I activated my 2nd Bnet account since you can't delete accounts that have bought WoW expansions (GDPR) and I play in EU (Vanilla+) and NA (Shadowlands+). Anyway, before the multibox nerfs I was getting ready to continue doing 5-man teams with Druids and have even more fun solo but no. At least now with Remix I get to compensate for the many lost years of multiboxing and just go balls to the wall. I'm having such a blast. I choose the level 20 Priest Trial strat since I don't need a powerful 70 because I don't care about the cosmetics nor do I care about raiding at 70. I’d rather keep adding more alts to more realms haha. The Priest helps me realise this dream much faster even with the buffs Lastly, I enjoy the Holy Priest playstyle a lot more than I expected, especially when it's sped up and so mobile (I only ever heal with my Resto Druids for this reason). I'm addicted to mobility. And alts.... P.s. Luckily my EU account is in more need of server transfers rather than alts except for Tanks, I need more max level tanks in EU though. NA is where I'm putting all of my serious alt focus right now. If I ever feel like doing EU later I can and will. The more alts I level the more I will tweak and finetune my strategy. I have a Priest ready there too lol. Have fun

Absolutely they are easy and that's my point - we have PTSD from Retail, which is why we dismiss certain ways to play and level - such as Normals - in Pandaria, but those are super easy and sometimes even easier than LFR.

Pretty sure as with any other achievements in Pandaria - need to do on one character, then once it's done any alt can buy stuff from the vendor girl at the bazaar

@@ootek77 yeh the 60 to 70 is a shitkicker

@@marrokklongfall1116 but if you follow the method of not looting xp tokens, you can just skip the whole 60-70 range. best part about the method, imo.

I'm on another alt now just around 61-62 with a 500% boost

That's actually good to hear. I like people that test things even if it isn't the most efficient. That way we KNOW "what happens if I do x or Y?" etc That's how solutions to surprising things can be found. Hf

Yes it is!

It (probably) means that either you use an out of date addon, or that the author has not updated it to include that boss? 🤷‍♀️🤣

Good question, I imagine they could absolutely solo LFR, but not so sure about Normals

@@GyrotexGaming im hard capped on my stats and almost 7mil health. i solo Heroic 10mans that dont have MC or other mechanics that NEED more than one player.

No idea mate this was published before D4 was launched! ages ago...

@@GyrotexGaming still a great video!

How can you tell? Maybe just a no-lifer who grinds bronze every day as anyone could? 🤷‍♀️

ALOT of ppl have similiar stats and are not froggers. just play the game, literally, u get millions of bronze and stats just by doing dailys....not evry one stronger than you is an exploiter. my entire guild is super stronger by just playing 1 h or 2 a day MAX. bosses die in 4 seconds ( HEROIC ), 20 seconds MAX in mythic. its so easy, i dont get it how ppl say is slow....

Lol you're one of those Gods then...Welcome!

Rookie numbers mate 😂

I'd say anything with human factor - e.g. "we don't want any more of hunters..... what's your I/O rating....." and all that BS - is not easy.

@@GyrotexGaming i've actually had really positive experiences starting the groups myself and getting carried by the supermen. they didn't complain once about rezzing me after every boss :) you get massive xp buff from normal raid that allow you to level alts in 2-3 hours. it's the "don't loot xp" strat that a lot of other ppl have demonstrated.

​@GyrotexGaming Sounds like you just want everything to be effortless, part of the human factor is YOU doing what you should. Plenty of people doing world tour carries now and I always find a group no matter which class I'm on, simply by queueing for everything I can on premades or starting my own that takes a few minutes to fill up.

​@GyrotexGaming again, your making claims out of ignorance... THIS IS NOT RETAIL. Nobody is doing what you're saying in Remix... there's no "meta" in Remix, there's no I/O in Remix, what in the world are you talking about? As a content provider you are passing on VERY BAD ADVICE by trying too steer people away from anything other than LFR... you make way more Bronze in Normal and Heroic raids than you do in LFR, the bosses die just as quick, and I haven't seen ANY toxic raid leaders (or groups) everybody is just nuking stuff down fast and moving on. It's clear you haven't tried raid groups in Remix because if you did you'd know nobody is talking about I/O, group composition or "too many hunters". You're clearly using your bias against Retail raid groups cloud your judgment on Remix raid groups that you've obviously not even joined one group. You speak of I/O ratings that literally don't exist in Remix. Raiding is BY FAR the fastest way you'll farm bronze in Remix and you're trying to steer your viewers away from it based on prejudices on ficticious things that don't exist in Remix. Try Raiding in Remix and make a new video... you'll find it's way better than doing LFR.

Glad to hear yet again that "it's not just me".... Here's to armies of naked alts waiting for TWW to launch! 😉👌

They probably will do another buff, I'd say

Human factor though... Inviting only preferred classes, having to deal with the raid leader (unless you're one yourself)... I don't like that .

@GyrotexGaming it's obvious you're confusing Retail with Remix... its a really bad comparison and makes me wonder if you've been in a single Remix raid (not LFR). It's EXTREMELY EASY to pug into a normal raid... ive not seen a single raid leader in Remix complain about anybody in Remix... have you been in a Remix raid group? Nobody is doing what you say they are... yes, I've seen that in Retail,I haven't seen that in Remix at all.

Yeah, below 35 is op.

See. Human factor of anything that doesn't auto-invite. We want them but not you... Altoholics don't have time for this BS. 😉

if you can't get an invite, just start a group yourself. it's super easy!

Glad to hear it, welcome!

First character definitely has it's own, more straightforward (and slow) path.

What a profound realisation! 🤣

Enjoy!

Slightly exaggerated but fair summary overall

Yeah. A single run of the heroic raids will net you 80K bronze mythic Orgrimmar, 30k. With a raid of max geared characters, we ran siege tonight on mythic in 70 minutes. We wiped twice on the last boss. Had we not done that, we’d have been out in less than an hour.

A different way to summarise more or less the same

Haaaaahahaa love it

Great additions, thank you

also since accessories dont upgrade past 314, your gems in those slot are not scaling to their potential. make sure your epic gems are in your highest lvl gear for most benefit. remember the scaling when you go to min max stats

Lol nice to meet you!

They must be upgrading something in every slot but then equipping something else. I don't know why anyone would do that.

@@Assabinnas Ahh could be a fat finger when a bronze scrapper times out... I have accidentally equipped stuff i was trying to scrap because of the 2 minute timer on each scrapper u summon, makes me super paranoid now!

I know that you need to raise your ilevel progressively across all pieces (which is stupid, by the way). Maybe I was wrong and spotted his jewelry at mid-high 300s and thought he had a couple more pieces, human error... 🤷‍♀️

You can’t upgrade jewelry. It stays at 342. Some people delete their jewelry for better scaling but many people just keep them.

Because of the way you upgrade gear you could have some at 556, some at 542, and jewelry at 342. So basically that demon Hunter had some gear that was one upgrade away from as good as it can be.

I dinged level 70 on 27th of may (after frog nerfs) and have since got 2 characters to 476 ilvl. Play the game and cry less and you too can be 476 instead of crying about froggers which havn't been an issue for a long time now.

Imagine crying about people who grinded frogs. Get a life.

Even if they did, now you have a fat buff to what you get including bronze, so you can get there all the same

Hardly much of a TLDR

😉👌

Wow what did you expect? A DPS guide for ALL classes that would tell you exactly what you wanted to hear? Bye.

Thank you for a positive comment. Some people seem to be disappointed and expected something ELSE from a video like this. I wonder what? lol...

Completely agree mate! My problem is - I can't beat my chronic altoholism - I switch between alts all the time.

@@GyrotexGaming I'm on my 4th alt - I've tried following 2 different youtubers methods. the first was faster but the same dungeons over an over gets boring.

What class are you playing?

just go dps with MoA tinker gem you will feel more like a god not needing a tank

@@videovisions prtection paladin. I also rolled a warrior and a monk. They are all at level seventy but I’ve only geared the pally.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Many ways to skin a cat

Not sure about that in standard UI, sorry

@@GyrotexGaming Thanks man!

Good to hear from you as always! We should do something new, like a Gyro Team dungeon run with commentary or on Discord or something like that... I don't normally have a regular group but we have a pretty tight team here of a few regulars, so maybe should try when TWW launches for a change of pace? Altoholics don't judge! 💪🤣

@@GyrotexGaming I would be up for that. I don't normally do dungeons now due to the go go mentality, but teaming up with you guys sounds fun. What a great idea :)

@@lizthejournalmagpie cool, let's see how the expansion starts and I'll reach out to "you know who you are" (lol) people in a video with my battle tag, we can take it from there 👍

Sounds like a good plan you have there! July onwards should be exciting (with the pre-expansion event and all)

You're asking very good questions mate, but given that 1) they have a much larger team now - it's a fact, and 2) the expansion drop date is EARLIER (not later), it tells me that it'll likely be better than Shadowlands for sure. Simply as if it wasn't, they'd extend as much as humanly possible, not try and drop it before the date everyone realistically expected (at least end of September, but surely not August!)

You have 2.5 months to finish your studies my friend! 🤣

Me too my friend

Lovely to hear from you and welcome to our little club. Very happy to have you with us.

This reminds me of an MM hunter which I've never properly gotten into (relying on pets, largely), but maybe now is the time for me to give it a go again.

Good choices, can't go wrong with either. Too many buttons for me on Brewmaster, but I still love it

Great logic - a strong ranged and a heavy frontliner.

Maybe not AUTO self-healing but plenty of healing on demand, for sure. What's doing auto self-healing for you? DH, I'm guessing?

Man so you suck at ret palis I guess lol. No offense I never died as my Pali if you know how to play the class or know the combat for stuff "like you should"